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Looks like ABC New York got the okay.
by truthseekeriam in
1. jw
2. friends
http://appellatecases.courtinfo.ca.gov/search/case/dockets.cfm?dist=1&doc_id=2025979&doc_no=a136641.

12/19/2014order filed.

upon due consideration, the media request of applicant abc news to make a video recording of oral argument in the above-referenced appeal is granted.
the girl next door

ABC is permitted to use one video camera and one lighting system. They or any other party are not permitted to use any other recoding devices such as audio recorders or phones.
Rule 1.150 (e)(8)
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Just 2 questions regarding the U.S. law around sex abuse
by joe134cd in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
i just have 2 questions regarding the u.s law around sex abuse.. (1) in this country it is quite common for the events of a sex abuse trial, to have suppression orders placed on it.

one i can think of was when the offender was given name suppression because to identify the abuser would also mean identifying the victim, so hence both were given name suppression.

now with regard to the out of court settlements and gag orders by the watchtower, and yes i do realise that the wt would have the most to benefit by doing this.
the girl next door

For a victim to be dragged through trial is horrific. Defense attorneys are ruthless. So yes many victims settle out of court to avoid the pain of trial. This also happens regularly in criminal court. You can not fault a victim for this choice. WT gets picked on in these cases because they are viewed as the bad guy. Also, WT doesn't just write out fat settlements. They argue and fight and threaten to get the victim to settle for as little as possible.

Zalkin did nothing wrong in the Lopez case. WT chose to be in contempt. It would not make sense for Zalkin to follow any other procedure than what has found success.
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Want to email a bunch of local JW's something about TTATT anonymously but don't know their email address?
by EndofMysteries in
1. social
2. humour
post a cl add looking to contract some window washers and house cleaners, 98% of the 200+ respondents will be your local jw's.
the girl next door

JWs knock on the doors of strangers, they call random strangers on the telephone and they write lengthy letters to addresses of strangers in their areas. Their message irritates the crap out of people. Even when they are asked to stop they do it again months down the road when some ballsy servant going out for elder decides to update the "do not call"

Why can't we knock on their doors, call or write?

Look up Tracy Metcalf's letter writing campaign and the results he found from doing so.
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Media request to record/broadcast oral argument; from ABC News New York
by Londo111 in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
http://appellatecases.courtinfo.ca.gov/search/case/dockets.cfm?dist=1&doc_id=2025979&doc_no=a136641.

see last item:.

"media request to record/broadcast oral argument; from abc news new york".
the girl next door

In criminal court blame goes on the perpetrator. In civil court blame is given to parents, elders, congregations and headquarters. I understand where johnamos is coming from as well as everyone saying don't blame the parents. It all boils down to culpability. In every civil case the finger is pointed at parents by the Watchtower legal team. But often times parents hardly have any measure of culpability because they where never made aware of an abusers past. It's that malfeasance of Watchtower's policy which shields pedophiles from discovery that they are paying for in court today.

If a JW parent learns their child has been abused yes they should go to the police first but they don't because they believe they are making Jehovah sad if they do. Why do they feel that way? Who has conditioned them to feel that way? JW parents put the organization first before their own children. To place the blame squarely on them for not going to the police is ignoring the underlying issues and that is what upsets people when others start pointing their finger at parents.
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BRITAIN - A High Court Judge has ruled that a Jehovah's Witness boy can receive a Blood Transfusion
by jwleaks in
1. watchtower
2. medical
britain - a high court judge has ruled that the son of two jehovahs witnesses can be given a blood transfusion despite religious objections from his parents.. mr justice moylan was told by doctors that the very young boy had suffered severe burns in an accident and might need a blood transfusion.

the judge concluded that a blood transfusion would be in the youngsters best interests in spite of the deeply held views of his mother and father.. the judge said a health trust with responsibility for treating the boy had asked for a ruling.

he did not name anyone involved and did not give the childs age.. judgment - www.jwleaks.org/blood/case-no-fd14p00803.
the girl next door

Both motivated by undue influence Phizzy?
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AAWA activists burst into a Kingdom Hall in Kent!
by raymond frantz in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
aawa activists burst into a kingdom hall in kent.

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the girl next door

It is not Marc Latham in the video, those in the video have nothing to do with AAWA, the flyers are not AAWA produced flyers and storming Kingdom Halls is not part of AAWA's mission.
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AAWA activists burst into a Kingdom Hall in Kent!
by raymond frantz in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
aawa activists burst into a kingdom hall in kent.

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the girl next door

The flyers utilized in the video are not produced by AAWA.
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AAWA activists burst into a Kingdom Hall in Kent!
by raymond frantz in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
aawa activists burst into a kingdom hall in kent.

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the girl next door

Yes all of "AAWA's" misgivings have been well covered on this forum. While the actions you described above are certainly distasteful and not at all appreciated by the entire ExJW community, they still are not acts of aggression in the face of JWs as the video posted on this thread was.
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AAWA activists burst into a Kingdom Hall in Kent!
by raymond frantz in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
aawa activists burst into a kingdom hall in kent.

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the girl next door

You still may know nothing about AAWA because this video has nothing to do with AAWA. Stupid thread title.
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AAWA activists burst into a Kingdom Hall in Kent!
by raymond frantz in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
aawa activists burst into a kingdom hall in kent.

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the girl next door

When AAWA board members and volunteers are blogging against "aggressive activism" it is quite clear this is not "AAWA activists" in the posted video. Sure anyone can download AAWA flyers and do whatever they want with them. But the blokes in the video are not AAWA volunteers nor are the flyers they are passing out AAWA flyers.

Now if you want to make this totally unrelated video an AAWA issue and an occasion to bring up well covered disdain for AAWA, well that's your prerogative.